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All right, everybody, so you've probably heard the news by now, but the big news this week was

that Tim Cook is officially stepping down as CEO, John Turner, to replace him. I've got a special guest, Lance Yulinoff, to dig, dive deep.

And we talk about all the different angles and nuance.

This is a really great and fun conversation.

So you know what time it is?

Let's get to the show.

What's up, everybody? Welcome to the show. It's the Apple Bits XL. Brian Taw here, your host.

Doing the most for everything good and bad inside the world of Apple. We are at episode 375, so yes, we should hit 400 by the end of this year, which is pretty incredible. But you know what?

I just want to jump right into it because this is such a great, this is about a hour-long conversation with my buddy, Lance Yulinov. And we are going to give you every angle possible about Tim Cook stepping down, what it means now, what it means for the future,

what challenges lie ahead, and what does Apple need to do for this to be a success? So I'm just going to stop talking. Let's just jump right into it. All right, everybody. So to get to the big

news of the week, the story of the week and probably the story of the year for Apple, broughtought in my good friend, Lance Yulenoff, editor at large for Tech Radar. Lance, welcome back. Thanks for hanging out, buddy. Thanks for having me. I'm excited to be here. Ooh, always. I mean, we always have some nice juicy conversation. So look, I mean, this is obviously something that we expected. We didn't know when exactly Tim Cook would be stepping down as CEO, but most of us thought probably this year, although in all interviews, he kind of intimated, nah, it's not going to happen anytime soon. But when you get the news and the reality actually happens. And of course, we know that he'll be stepping down in September 1 of this year.

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