Well, it's always great to get the thoughts and the insights of Tim Brando.

Of course, if you're a big 12 fan, you see this guy on most Saturdays calling one of our games,

and it's great to have them on the show.

I'm Pete Mundo.

Thanks for joining us on Heartland College Sports, whether it's on YouTube, the podcast,

or one of our radio affiliates, great to have you on board.

Tim, let's just start off with this offseason, which has been dominated by expansion talk,

Big 12 rumors, who's coming, who's leaving the Pack 12?

How would you assess what we've heard for what's going on, like three, four months now,

of expansion chatter?

Yeah, well, Pete, it's understandable, given the, you know, the period that we're in.

This is certainly a huge transition period in college football, and it's going to go on this way,

probably for another three to five years as things continue to shake out with the 12-team

format coming in, the new television rights being implemented as they will be, not this year, but next, for all the different leagues.

And that'll be true.

And obviously, the hot story now is whether there will be television rights for the PAC-12.

And that's put us in a little bit of a hold pattern with regard to realignment.

I think that Brett Yormark is the most prepared to make the most moves,

but it all hinges and depends on whether the presidents of the schools in the Pact 12 that are in peril managed to

get in before the clock strikes midnight with a with a TV deal and if and if the Pact 12

if George Cleofov cannot do that then I think your Mark's welcome wagon in the Big

12 will start a chain of events that will lead to movement both in the Big 12, the Big 10 potentially, because I do think some Pac-12 teams could be moving into the Big 10 as well if the Big 12 moves that we foresee take place. And then, of course, the whole

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