A warning. This episode contains discussion of sexual assault that may be disturbing.

Listener discretion is advised.

As a note, we reached out to Tim Ballard's attorney to request an interview and our request went unanswered.

And one last thing. After Tim Ballard left the anti-trafficking organization O-U-R in 2023, it was renamed O-U-R- Rescue.

Its new leaders say they do not condone Tim Ballard's alleged actions while part of the old

organization. I was molested and sexually assaulted by Tim in

four different states, five different countries, in the span of 10 months.

Tim manipulated and abused and brainwashed me

to a point where I didn't know left from right

and right from wrong.

He has ruined so many people's lives.

As big as I, like my heart was for the mission and I would do anything for the mission like as far as wanting to save kids

Not anything like I should not not say that because what what it got me in.

Celes Bory's told me her first one-on-one with Tim Ballard was intense. She was working with Operation Underground Railroad, now known as OUR Rescue or OU for short,

which was an organization that Ballard began in 2013,

with the stated goal of rescuing children around the world from sex trafficking.

So naturally the stakes were high, but even under those circumstances,

Ballard really laid it on thick.

Celeste was in our office working late when Ballard burst in slamming the door behind him.

He told her that he'd ask God who could help

him pull off one of his dangerous undercover operations and he told her that he

then saw her face.

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