TIL 565: Mysticism in the Counseling Room (feat. Keith Palmer)
Truth in Love
Association of Certified Biblical Counselors
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 27 April 2026
⏱️ 18 minutes
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Summary
1. What is mysticism?
2. Why is this concerning for us?
3. How does mysticism work against core doctrines and the way we view our relationship with God?
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| 0:00.0 | Mysticism in the counseling room on this edition of Truth and Love. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, |
| 0:16.2 | where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face. |
| 0:20.2 | This week on the podcast I have with me, Dr. Keith Palmer. |
| 0:23.4 | He's a senior associate pastor at Grace Bible Church in Granbury, Texas. |
| 0:27.6 | He's also the director of the Center for Biblical Counseling and Discipleship there. |
| 0:32.0 | He holds degrees from the Master's Seminary, the Southern Baptistiological Seminary, |
| 0:36.2 | and also Midwestern Baptist Theological |
| 0:38.2 | Seminary. He's a fellow and board member for ACBC. He's an instructor of biblical counseling at the |
| 0:43.5 | Master's University, and a chaplain in the Civil Air Patrol, which is an auxiliary of the United |
| 0:48.3 | States Air Force. His passion and ministry is shepherding God's people through the teaching and |
| 0:53.0 | counseling of the scriptures. |
| 0:59.1 | He's married to Lisa. Together they have been blessed with three children, Alan, Amy, and Eric. Keith and his family have been members at Grace since 2002. Brother, it's always good to have |
| 1:05.4 | you. We're looking forward to our topic today because we see this so widespread. So welcome |
| 1:09.7 | the podcast. Thanks, Dale. Great to be with you. Now, as we talk about this concept of mysticism, we certainly see this broadly in our culture. And I'll just make a couple of comments. I think it's very interesting. I don't even know if this is a direction you're going to go, Keith. But when I saw the topic on the concept of mysticism, I mean, my mind goes into a lot of different |
| 1:27.9 | directions. |
| 1:28.5 | It's very interesting to see what's happening in the mental health world, because in the mental |
| 1:32.6 | health world, what you're seeing occur is we have been in a cycle in the history of mental |
| 1:38.0 | health and the way the philosophy sort of cycles through in what's called naturalistic |
| 1:42.9 | or biological psychiatry. Well, that's where |
| 1:44.8 | people trying to explain biological explanations for the problems that we have. And what they're seeing |
| 1:49.5 | is that they're in a crisis of credibility at the moment. And what they're trying to do is still |
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