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Truth in Love

TIL 546: Teaching Counselees to Apply the Truth (feat. Jacob Elwart)

Truth in Love

Association of Certified Biblical Counselors

Christianity, Religion & Spirituality, Society & Culture, Philosophy

4.8628 Ratings

🗓️ 8 December 2025

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

1. What is the goal of biblical counseling and the concept of homework?

2. How do you help people learn the basics of applying Scripture?

3. What are some categories of homework we can give?

4. What do we do to motivate counselee's to do the homework?

5. How can the local church be involved in the counseling process?

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0:00.0

Teaching counsellees to apply the truth on this edition of Truth and Love.

0:11.6

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

0:20.8

This week on the podcast I have with me, Jacob Elwirt.

0:23.4

He's a pastor of discipleship ministries at Intercity Baptist Church in Allen Park, Michigan.

0:28.5

He also serves as assistant professor of biblical counseling at Detroit Baptist Theological Seminary.

0:33.0

He's a fellow with ACBC and also a newly minted board member with ACBC. He and his wife, Jennifer,

0:38.7

have three children and one grandchild. Jacob, welcome to the podcast, brother. Thank you. Thank you for

0:44.0

having me. And this is going to be fun talking about teaching counselors to apply truth. And it's so

0:49.8

important that we learn as a counselor, the skilled responsibility that we have to apply appropriate

0:56.0

truths in an appropriate way for the problem at hand. So I want you to talk about before we get

1:01.9

into the application piece, what is the goal of biblical counseling and how does assigning homework

1:07.3

fit into that goal? Because honestly, some people would say, what, you guys use homework?

1:16.3

That sounds elementary. But describe the goal of biblical counseling and this whole concept of homework. Well, the work of counseling is really just discipleship. It's intensive discipleship. So what we're

1:21.9

trying to do here is we're trying to get them to become more and more like Jesus Christ.

1:29.4

It's one aspect of the larger work that the church is doing to bring a person to full maturity. So homework helps them

1:35.6

put the truth that they're learning into practice. And the critical part, I think, for homework

1:41.6

is that it cannot bypass the heart. You could have a councilee do all the

1:45.3

assignments but never be changed. And so what we're trying to do is we're trying to give them work

1:50.2

on their own, apart from us that would be helpful to take them to the next level of spiritual glory

1:56.1

as 2nd Corinthians 318 talks about as they gaze on the scriptures, they get a sense more of who God is

2:04.6

and who they are and are then changed by it. Yeah, that's exactly right. I mean, when I think about

2:08.8

homework, it really is more of an emphasis on who the person is that's responsible for helping

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