First, do no harm, a biblical approach to the transgender movement on this edition of

Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association

of Certified Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

I am thrilled to have with us today, Dr. Dan Deann.

He went to medical school at George Washington University in Washington, D.C.

He and his wife Kelly live in Spokane, Washington,

where he has practiced primary care internal medicine for 34 years.

He became ACBC certified in 2016, and he enjoys teaching on medical subjects for us here at

ACBC. He serves as lay elder of biblical counseling at Faith Bible Church, and he had the honor

of contributing two chapters to the Christian

Counselor's Medical Desherence, the second edition. He and his wife Kelly have raised three

children who are all married and loving their nine delightful grandchildren, and in its

free time, he loves cycling, woodworking, fly fishing, music, reading, and travel. Brothers, good to have you with us today.

Thank you, Dale.

It's going to be back.

And we are diving into a very difficult topic, especially one that is hot and inflammatory

in the days in which we live.

And we want to look back at this in such a way to make sure that we're making biblical sense of the chaos

that's happening really in our world. I want you to talk as a medical doctor, which you are,

and to give us some sense of, you know, maybe for many of us who aren't in the medical world,

we hear about this transgender stuff, and it seems like it just

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