Journeys to biblical counseling on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast,

I'm always delighted to spend time with Dr. Heath Lambert. He became the senior pastor of First Baptist Church, Jacksonville in September of 2017. Prior to serving at First Baptist,

Pastor Heath served as the executive director here at ACBC and as professor at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

He's the author of several books, including the biblical counseling movement after Adams, finally free, fighting for purity with the power of grace, transforming homosexuality, a theology of biblical counseling, and the great love of God. He's married to Lauren, and they have

three children, Carson, Chloe, and Connor. Heath, it's always a pleasure to have you on the podcast

and just enjoy time with you, brother. Very glad to be here. I tell you when we're alone, and I tell

you in front of people that I am so thankful for you and your leadership.

ACBC conference this year was so, so encouraging.

You are an exemplary leader, and I'll do whatever you want me to do.

So I'm happy to be here.

Well, I'm glad we have that recorded now commitment to do whatever.

That sounds like a blank check to me.

And I look forward to that.

So listen, we're here to talk. So many people are encouraged by stories, always wondering,

you know, how did people that we listen to and read come into biblical counseling?

Before we get into that, I want you to, for people who may not be familiar with you, Heath, tell a little bit about your story, obviously, a little bit about First Baptist Church in Jacksonville. Just a little bit about the man, Heath Lambert, your family, that sort of thing. Okay. Yeah. So I'm married to my wonderful wife, Lauren. We've been together for over 20 years now, just celebrated our 20th anniversary back in the summertime. And we have three kids.

You mentioned Carson, Chloe, and Connor. So Carson is our 18-year-old. He's in college, and I don't know

how that happened. I remember holding him up on my chest when he was born. And now he's driving

off to college and doing all these weird things that grown-ups do. And we've got our wonderful, precious, beautiful,

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