Finding rest in Christ on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love,

a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I'm delighted to have with me, Dr. Paul Twiss.

Paul serves as a teaching pastor at Bethany Bible Church in Thousand Oaks, California.

He's also an associate faculty member at the Master's Seminary.

Paul loves to preach and teach the Bible, and he's blessed to be the husband to Laura and a father

to six young

children, which I can resonate with, certainly having six children of my own. Paul, listen,

it's a delight to be with you. Thank you for joining us on the podcast today. It's great to be here.

Thanks for having me. Now, interestingly, we are talking about the rest that Jesus offers. And as you

think through this, I always describe in counseling,

most of the time counseling issues, this is exactly what people are looking for. They just don't

know where to find it. They find themselves burdened. I often say that, you know,

life's experiences are best to explain in the system of scripture better than any other

system. And what people are looking for with these difficulties that they struggle with is they're trying to find peace. They're trying to find solace. They're trying to find rest. And we think about the world in very different ways. We think, well, we're not supposed to be burdened. Maybe it's abnormal that we're burdened. But the reality is Jesus says in this world, we will have trouble, right? We're going to have difficulty. So let's start at a place

like that. What are the things that make us heavy laden and struggle? What are the troubles that we

feel, the burdens, if you will, that we feel? It's interesting. You mentioned it just there.

I think most people, at least in various seasons, feel burdened. They feel weary. And we

tend to think about rest in terms of pulling back, doing less. We think our weariness comes from a

full schedule. And certainly a change in routine, vacation can give relief. But I don't think that's what Jesus has in mind

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