redeeming sex in marriage on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast I have with me, Dr. Scott Mel, a Scott Pastor's Carnestone Church of West

L.A. He's the managing director of the Institute for Biblical Counseling and Discipleship,

many know as one of the alphabet soups, IBCD, and he's a fellow with ACBC. He speaks and writes regularly

on topics related to counseling and discipleship, and he's the author of Loving, Messy People,

and his newest book, which we're going to talk about today, is redeeming sex in marriage. Scott,

so grateful for you, brother, and looking forward to our conversation today on this new book that you released.

Man, I'm so thankful for you, too, Dale.

It's just an honor.

It's always a blessing to get to connect.

Now, as I'm always curious to hear from an author, you know, what leads them to write the book.

Obviously, you saw some sort of need or some sort of, you know, way that you needed to

communicate more clearly in our culture. And writing on this topic of sex is a hard thing to do

biblically in the climate that we live in. So I'm eager to hear what led you to write a book

on this particular topic. Yeah, you know, I mean, it is a particular challenge in our context,

in our cultural context. And, you know, like a lot of things, like a lot of projects,

the Lord kind of directs and he demonstrates both need in the church, in the local church,

in people's lives around us and provides opportunity for that. And this came up because,

to me, our world is so, I mean, confused as an

understatement, right? Like it's completely lost its mind when it comes to anything related to sex

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