TIL 445: Counseling the Immature (feat. Daniel Schubert)
Truth in Love
Association of Certified Biblical Counselors
4.8 • 628 Ratings
🗓️ 18 December 2023
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
1. Common challenges associated with counseling the immature.
2. Key considerations for counseling the immature.
3. Biblical help for those counseling an immature person.
4. Wisdom those those counseling an immature person.
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| 0:00.0 | Counseling the Immature on this edition of Truth and Love. |
| 0:11.0 | I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, |
| 0:16.5 | where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face. |
| 0:21.7 | This week on the podcast, I have with me Dr. Daniel Schubert. |
| 0:25.4 | He's a graduate with a doctor of ministry and biblical counseling from the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary. |
| 0:30.9 | And he has a Masters of Divinity degree from the Masters Seminary. |
| 0:34.5 | He currently serves as the counseling pastor at Countryside Bible Church in South |
| 0:39.0 | Lake, Texas. Prior to serving at Countryside, he served at the Master's University as a graduate |
| 0:43.8 | teaching fellow in the MABC program. In addition to his work at the university, Daniel served |
| 0:49.1 | in the counseling department at Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California. He and his wife, Heidi, have two |
| 0:55.3 | daughters and a son, Annabel, Elliott, and Ruth. Daniel, so good to have you on the podcast today. |
| 1:01.7 | Yeah, Dale, it's great to be with you. Now, we're going to talk about this issue of immaturity. |
| 1:05.8 | And, man, I think this is a really critical piece because we need to discern these types of things. One of |
| 1:12.0 | things I talked to my intro students about as I teach there in Kansas City is when a person |
| 1:17.7 | comes into the office and we're sitting down to do intake with the person, we want to discern |
| 1:23.1 | our council will take different routes if this person is an unbeliever, or if this person is immature, |
| 1:29.3 | or if this person is mature, and yes, mature people have problems, that's true. But if this person |
| 1:34.0 | is immature, that's significant because now we know a little bit more about how we're going to |
| 1:39.7 | approach this person. So I want you to help us to consider some of the different challenges that we |
| 1:44.5 | face in the counseling room and how we identify when we are counseling someone who is immature. |
| 1:51.5 | Yeah, of course, as we think about maturity, it's helpful to think about the two-part nature |
| 1:54.9 | of man, both the physical and the spiritual sense, but there could be immaturities in either part. |
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