Counseling Postpartum Depression on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I have with me, my friend Shelby Cullen, who currently teaches as an

assistant professor for the School of Biblical Studies Department at the Masters University.

She completed her biblical counseling training from the Institute of Biblical Counseling and Discipleship,

the Masters University, and Southern Baptist Theological Seminary.

She's also a member of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselor since 2005.

She currently serves at Grace Community Church in Sun Valley, California, where she has the

privilege of teaching women in women's ministry and serving as part of the biblical counseling

ministry team. Shelby is also married to her best friend, Sean, and they just celebrated 37

years of marriage. They have four grown children, three in-law children, and three

darling grandchildren. So, Shelby, I'm so grateful that you're here today to talk about this very difficult

but very necessary issue of postpartum depression. Thanks. Yeah, thank you for having me on.

I'm really excited to be here. Now, let me preface this by saying Shelby was gracious enough to

write one of our booklets, our Biblical Solutions booklet series on this very topic. And so only so much that we can

cover in a short amount of time. So I would say I'll recommend that to you as well. But as we get

going into this, Shelby, let's talk about what postpartum is. So many people have questions about it,

maybe in a generic way, what meets the threshold of

postpartum? But what exactly is postpartum depression? Yeah, thank you. I mean, in short,

postpartum depression are really just women who are suffering. They've just given birth,

and they're experiencing a form of despair, but it goes beyond

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