Discerning Trauma-informed Therapy on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I have with me Dr. Ernie Baker.

He's married to Rose, and the Lord has blessed them with six children, five that are married,

and they have 11 grandchildren.

He has a privilege of serving the Lord at First Baptist Church in Jacksonville, Florida,

as a pastor of counseling and discipleship. In addition, he has a privilege of chairing the online

undergraduate degree in biblical counseling at the Master's University, serving as an adjunct in the

graduate program in counseling and as director of training for overseas instruction in counseling.

He's the author of Mary Wisely,

Mary Well, Help, I'm in Conflict, and Help, Disability Pressures My Marriage. He's also

contributed chapters to five other books and written many journals and magazine articles.

Ernie certified with ACBC. He also serves as a fellow and a conciliator with the Institute for

Christian Conciliation. Ernie, thanks again for being with us and looking forward to this topic today.

It's always a blessing to be with you, Dale.

It's always good to sit and chat, Ernie, and always look forward to your measured responses

in these things. And particularly we're going to need

that today as we discuss this issue of trauma-informed therapy. And this is something, this is a topic

that's sweeping really across the secular world. This is something that's been growing, particularly

since the 80s, more heavily in the counseling sphere before that in discussions relative to post-traumatic stress

disorder in the secular world as well. But even more recently in the biblical counseling

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