rescue skills on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love,

a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I have with me, Dr. Deepak Raysu.

He is a very, very familiar voice in the biblical counseling movement,

in the biblical counseling world, certainly in Southern Baptist circles.

He's a well-known pastor at Capitol Hill Baptist Church in Washington, D.C. He serves

there faithfully as a pastor of counseling and family ministry. He received a theological training

at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary, both M.D. He's written several books, and today

I want to talk to him, if we can, about a new book. Last week, we talked with him about one of his books, new books with Jonathan Holmes Rescue Plan.

This week I want us to talk about a secondary book rescue skills.

And Deepak, I want to give you a chance to just talk a little bit about the aim and focus of these two books.

You mentioned some of those things last week.

But I also want to give you an opportunity to catch our listeners up to the focus of this particular book rescue skills.

Yeah. So if rescue plan, which is what we talked about last week, is the what, when, and why

of pornography, theology of addictions and dealing with women struggling and in specific situations

in life like dating and marriage and teenagers. Rescue skills, we're no longer doing

the what when and why. Now we're doing the how. What are the specific skills you need to

employ to be a faithful pastor, counselor, discipler as you come alongside the

person who's struggling. So this is, this book is not geared for the struggler, though they can

benefit from it. It's geared for the helper, the pastor, the pastor, counselor, small group leader,

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