Knowing when to graduate your counsellee on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people

face. This week on the podcast, I have a familiar voice with ACBC, and that is Pastor Brad

Bigney. He's the pastor of Grace Fellowship just outside of Cincinnati, Ohio, down in Florence,

Kentucky. He's been there 26 years as lead pastor. He's a certified member of ACBC and often a speaker

at many of our events. I love this brother. He's the author of gospel treason. Many of you have read

that book as well. And I'm so grateful for Brad. Every time I'm around bread, I feel uplifted,

edified, and encouraged.

And I just appreciate this, brother, and this time is no different.

And Brad, we're going to be talking about a breakout session that you recently delivered at our national conference in Charlotte, North Carolina.

And listen, this is a topic that we need to address.

We need to talk about how to know when is the

proper time to graduate a counselorian. Brother, I'm so glad that you're here to talk about this

with some of your experience, the things that you've learned over time. It's a good topic for us.

Thank you, Dale. It's always a joy to spend time with you, and I love serving with ACBC and the

larger body of Christ. It gets me

excited as I have opportunities to be reminded that there's far more going on in our world

besides my one local church. But yeah, this has been a journey for a little bit. I've been doing

biblical counseling for 30 years now and I've changed. And I think it happens a lot to counselors, or even if you're listening

and you're like, well, I'm no counselor officially, but if you're a godly man or woman that seeks

to disciple and help people, how do you know when it's time to move on and grab somebody else?

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