TIL 331: When the Counselor Becomes Ill (feat. Dan Kirk)
Truth in Love
Association of Certified Biblical Counselors
4.8 • 631 Ratings
🗓️ 4 October 2021
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
1. Common Temptations During Significant Physical Suffering
2. Counseling Yourself During Suffering
3. Remembering the Benefit of Trials
4. The Blessing of a Church That Cares Well
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| 0:00.0 | When the counselor becomes ill on this edition of Truth and Love. |
| 0:12.2 | I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, |
| 0:18.0 | where we seek to provide biblical solutions to the problems that people face. |
| 0:22.5 | And today on the podcast, I am joined with Pastor Dan Kirk. He is the senior pastor at Calvary |
| 0:27.9 | Bible Church in Fort Worth, Texas. He's married to his wife, Chris, of 35 years. They have seven |
| 0:34.4 | children. Dan, you beat us by one. And you have six grandchildren. And I can't wait to hear |
| 0:39.2 | about that. We're not ready for that yet. But that sounds so exciting. And so you're also a fellow |
| 0:44.8 | with us here at ACBC, which means that you help us to do a lot of training and that you engage our |
| 0:50.7 | people in supervision, helping them one on one, which I think is one of the most amazing |
| 0:55.1 | things that we do. And he also helps to lead one of our training centers down in the Dallas-Fort Worth |
| 1:00.2 | area, and it's called the Center for Biblical Counseling and Discipleship. And Dan, I'm really |
| 1:05.9 | excited to talk to you about this topic. Sometimes we talk about physical suffering or chronic illness and it's |
| 1:12.1 | really easy for us to talk about that in someone else's life. It's a lot easier for us, I think, |
| 1:17.4 | to try and understand the scripture and tell other people what they need to do when they have |
| 1:22.5 | physical illness or some sort of chronic issue or some sort of physical suffering that's |
| 1:26.9 | happening. But you've experienced in a some sort of physical suffering that's happening. |
| 1:33.9 | But you've experienced in a different way, physical suffering that has happened even to you as a counselor. |
| 1:36.7 | So I want us to think about this topic and try to think about it well. |
| 1:42.8 | As biblical counselors, we understand certainly that not every single case that we deal with is predicated on a person's personal sin, |
| 1:46.2 | certainly because of the curse of sin, right? Our bodies physically decay. That's a part of the |
| 1:50.7 | truth that we hear from Scripture. But many times this is about physical suffering, suffering |
| 1:56.6 | that happens because of the curse of the world. And so we understand it for many years, |
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