TIL 315: Shepherding Divisive Opinions (feat. Dr. Rick Holland)
Truth in Love
Association of Certified Biblical Counselors
4.8 • 631 Ratings
🗓️ 14 June 2021
⏱️ 22 minutes
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Summary
1. Some of the Most Divisive Opinions Pastors have Encountered Post Pandemic
2. Biblical Parameters and Wisdom for Making Divisive Decisions
3. How to Shepherd the Soul of a Disagreeing Person
4. 1 Peter 5 - Making the Best Decision for Your Flock
5. Counsel for the Weary Pastor
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| 0:00.0 | shepherding divisive opinions on this edition of Truth and Love. |
| 0:12.3 | I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association |
| 0:16.6 | of Certified Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face. |
| 0:23.6 | Today I am joined on the podcast with Pastor Rick Holland of Mission Road Bible Church in Prairie Village, Kansas. |
| 0:33.0 | I am so delighted to have Pastor Rick here, not just as my personal pastor here in the Kansas |
| 0:38.2 | City area, but for his many years of faithful shepherding and pastoral influence. |
| 0:44.1 | And what a great personal relationship we've begun to build and friendship that I think |
| 0:50.3 | the Lord has just, it's been a refreshing relationship, Rick. |
| 0:53.3 | And I'm grateful for you and the |
| 0:56.4 | ministry of Mission Road Bible Church, the way that you guys minister to us as a family. |
| 1:01.2 | I'm just so grateful. |
| 1:02.3 | And I look forward to our conversation today, not an easy one, not a simple one. |
| 1:06.3 | Let me tell you a little bit more about Rick. |
| 1:07.8 | He is married to Kim for 26 years and they have three boys. |
| 1:12.3 | And those guys are cool. But there is another now that has taken their place, I suppose, |
| 1:18.5 | a grandchild, and his name is Charlie, a few months old. And man, I love to hear Rick talk about |
| 1:24.7 | Charlie. It's one of my favorite things. And so the delight of a grandfather, especially with a first grandchild. And so Rick, we're going to dive into this. We're going to talk about some of these divisive opinions. And listen, we've been doing this whole post-pandemic thing for a while now. The pandemic, you know, for 15 months. And it seems like we've been coming out of this to some degree or another for quite some time. |
| 1:47.2 | And, you know, one of the things that I've thought about through this whole process is early on, it seemed like, you know, your churches that were struggling, the pandemic had a massive impact early on. |
| 1:59.6 | And then as we move forward, some of your |
| 2:02.4 | conservative, stronger churches were handling that well. People were unified. Yes, there's a lot |
| 2:08.5 | of unknown. We're not sure what's going on. We're not sure of the narratives. So, you know, |
| 2:12.5 | yeah, we're going to take all the protocols and do the things that are necessary and that sort of |
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