Church employment, termination, and reporting on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems

that people face.

And today I'm really excited to introduce you to our guest, and I'm so thankful that you

all are not expecting me to address this topic.

This one would be way in over my head, but today I have with me George Crawford, and George is an elder at Grace Community

Church in Sun Valley, California. He's been a member there since 1978. He's married to his wife,

Anne, for 38 years. He has two sons, Steve, and Mike, with four grandchildren. He has served in the California legal system for 37 years

as a prosecuting attorney, also 14 years as an administrative law judge. He teaches and has taught

for quite some time at the Master's University on legal issues as well. And so I am grateful,

George, that you are here with us to give us wisdom.

And there are a myriad of questions to talk about as we discuss this issue of church employment,

termination reporting. We think about it with all the issues going on in today's society,

with the abuse scandals that are happening. But there are many, many other issues that

raise questions, particularly for the church. And we want to be wise on this. We want the church

to be free and responsible to be who the church is called to be, to be obedient to the Lord.

But we also know we have a responsibility to obey the appointed government that God has given to us.

And so let's start with a basic question. And I know for those of you who are out there listening,

your elders in your church, or maybe you're a part of a church leadership or something like that,

and some sort of issue comes up with one of your employees or a question comes up about what

you should do.

Maybe one of them is acting immorally or something like that.

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