Battles with Temptation on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love,

a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

And today I am excited to have with me Lance Quinn. Lance is one of our board members here at

ACBC. Many of you are familiar with Lance and his ministry, pastoral ministry and his ministry

to ACBC throughout the years. He serves faithfully. I love this brother.

He's so helpful to me in my role here as executive director. A little bit about Lance and he

prepared for vocational ministry at several different institutions. He holds a master of divinity

degree, master of theology degree, doctor of Ministry degrees, well-educated man

from the Master's Seminary in Los Angeles, California. He's also received a doctorate degree

from the Evangelical Theological Faculty in Lovin, Belgium. Lance has been in ministry for 35 years,

over 20 of those as senior pastor, most recently at Bethany Bible in Thousand Oaks, California.

Lance and his late wife, Beth, have eight adult children and a growing number of grandchildren.

What blessings, Lance.

Man, it's so great to have you here on the podcast to talk about this particular subject, which is so needed.

So thank you, brother, for joining us.

Great to be here with you, Dale.

Lance, you delivered not long ago at our annual conference, which is year we had to do in a digital

format. And in your plenary session at our annual conference talking about this particular issue

of temptations from James Chapter 1. You spoke about the fact that

the Greek word and the biblical text in the context of James 1 that's often translated test,

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