despair, a medical perspective on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide a biblical solution for the problems

that people face. And this week on the podcast, I am delighted that Dr. Sam Stevens, who is on

staff with ACBC, he is our director of Training Center certification, and Sam was able to sit down

with Dr. Lee Edmonds, who lives and practices medicine in

Cooperstown, New York, where he serves there as the chief of pulmonary and sleep medicine

at Bassett Healthcare. Dr. Edmonds obtained his bachelor's degree from Bucknell University

and a medical degree from Jefferson Medical College in Philadelphia.

His advanced training was at the Mayo Clinic as an active teacher in the field of medicine,

and he holds a position of Associate Clinical Professor of Medicine at Columbia University College

of Physicians and Surgeons.

And he's published on a variety of medical issues.

Lee and his wife, Gene, have been involved in home

education of their five children for over 20 years. Lee is an ACBC certified member, and he

counsels and teaches at Potter's Wheel Discipleship Center in Cooperstown, New York.

Gentlemen, I'm so excited about the conversation that you're going to have today in regards

to despair,

talking about body and soul from a distinctly medical perspective.

So Sam, thanks for this time and the conversation that you're going to have.

Well, Dr. Edmonds, thank you for taking the time to come and speak with us today on this topic.

And you being a medical doctor, being able to give us some perspective and also a

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