helping children whose parents are divorcing on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth in Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

And this week on the podcast, I am excited that we have one of our board members, Dr. Kevin Bacchus.

He is the pastor at BPC in Grand Island, New York.

He's also a professor at several different seminaries, Western Reformed and Reformed

Presbyterian and maybe most recently Greenville Presbyterian as well. He's a director of two of our

training centers, Western Reformed, and then also the Biblical Counseling Center of Grand Island.

And Kevin, you've actually been a certified member when we were Nank back in 1994-95

and been serving on the board for quite some time which we're so thankful for that service

we're so grateful that you're here thanks for coming it's a real joy to be a part of it to

watch us grow and have new opportunities amen brother and uh today man we're talking about kind

of a tough subject a difficult subject and

life is full of those types of difficulties when we're talking about children and it's hard to

think about children suffering and children walking through difficulty but it is true and when we

think about children who are going through their parents are going through a divorce can you talk about just how difficult that is and is this something that's even personal to you

dale it is most of the folks that normally don't know the fact that i've had five fathers

throughout my life so um i started out in orphanage and my mother was married four times so i've been

through divorce at least four times and have

been adopted twice and orphaned twice. So I've kind of walked through some of it. And most often

when I look at the things that are happening to young people, especially in those earlier years going

through divorce, have had an opportunity to live through all of them. I don't think that's what

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