Finding Hope in an unwanted diagnosis on this edition of Truth in Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth in Love,

a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems

that people face. This week, I am delighted to have with me Tim Keeter, who is a lay elder at Grace Community

Church in Huntsville, Alabama. Tim speaks quite often for us at ACBC in our regional CDTs and also he's a frequent speaker at our annual

conference during breakout sessions. In fact, this coming year in October, he's going to be one of

our plenary speakers for our pre-conference called Human Suffering and Heaven's Hope. So Tim,

welcome to the podcast. We're excited about the topic that we're

going to talk about today. Thank you, Dale. It's always a pleasure to be here. Now, when we say we're

excited to talk about a topic like this, it's certainly not because it's a fun topic to talk about.

But I will say it is good for us to have these discussions, especially when we think about these ideas of diagnosis,

often terminal diagnosis, or difficult diagnoses. When we have a Christian paradigm, we think

differently about these types of ideas. And Tim, you've experienced this type of diagnosis.

You've sat in the room and heard those words of

a difficult diagnosis. And for many of our people who are counseling, they know they have loved ones

who have gone through this. Maybe they've gone through this themselves. And man, it's always

difficult. Even when you're a counselor to know, what do I say,

what do I do in difficult moments like that? You want to be encouraging, but you don't want to be

deflating. And you've walked through that. So I just want to ask you a couple of questions,

particularly about your experience in ways that you can encourage some of our counselors as they

deal with this, maybe personally, but

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