personality traits on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love,

a podcast of the Association of Certified Local Counselors,

where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

Today on the podcast, I am delighted to invite one of my colleagues, another professor, a good friend of mine,

Jeremy Pierre, to the podcast.

He's an associate professor of biblical counseling at the Southern Baptist Theological Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky.

You know, he's written a very helpful book for us called The Dynamic Heart in Daily

Life. If you haven't read that, I would encourage you to read that. He helps us to shape out

ways to think about us as human beings and different aspects of our being and seeing

ourselves as a collective whole. And I think you'd find it as a

helpful resource. Jeremy, we're so grateful that you're here to talk to us today about this new

and exciting topic of personality traits. I'm grateful to be here. As we begin, there seems to be

a lot of confusion. I think one of the best things for us to do is just let's begin with what does

the Bible have to say about personality. Well, like so many things that are actually very important

to our daily experience, the Bible doesn't lay out a system for us to understand it. So if you try to

look up in a concordance personality and then trace it back in the Bible, you're going to be disappointed.

But you shouldn't be disappointed with the Bible because that's not the point of it.

Rather, it gives us a lens through which we understand God's purposes for humanity.

That's the core of how we understand things.

Now, in terms of personality, we can do a number

of things in observing scripture. So we observe in narrative form, for instance, that characters

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