Hope in Christ through tragedy on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

Today, I am delighted to have Camille Cates join us on the podcast. She is the assistant

director of Healing Hearts Ministry. You're going to hear a little bit more about that ministry.

But before we get to talking about the

ministry, Camille, welcome to the podcast, and we're looking forward to having you share today.

Thanks for having me, Dale. So today, what I want to do is to have Camille share a little bit about

her testimony. And I want this to be an encouragement to our members in a couple of different

directions. Sometimes as counselors we see situations that we find are simple biblical solutions,

easy things to work through, and then there are oftentimes where we encounter difficulty,

deep struggle, deep tragedy even. And sometimes we wonder, Lord, how in the world can we

minister? And sometimes we're afraid maybe the Word of God is not powerful enough to help

in situations like this. And I want Camille to be able to share with you today a piece of her

story so that we can be encouraged

about the beauty of God's Word and the deep hope that we can find in His Word.

So Camille, welcome, and I love to hear a little bit more about your story.

My story kind of begins.

I was a church-raised kid.

I grew up in the church, heard a lot about the

Bible and Bible stories, people from the Bible. But I would say I didn't have a whole lot of

application growing up. I did come to know the Lord at age 12 at a youth camp.

But when I went back home, I just didn't have the discipleship.

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