Resolving Conflict on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson, and you're listening to Truth in Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

I am thrilled to have with us today Bill Shannon, who is the pastor of discipleship and counseling

at Grace Community Church in California. Bill has been certified since 1993, and he serves also as a fellow, and he's been a fellow

since 2013. Bill, I'm so grateful, first of all, for your service in the local church and

serving the local church so well. And then also your relationship with ACBC. Thank you for your faithful service there.

We're glad that you're here today. Well, thank you. It's good to be here.

Now, Bill, our task today is to talk about resolving conflict. And there are so many opportunities,

unfortunately, in the world in which we live, all the different relationships that we have between husband and

wife and parents and children and coworkers, and dare I say, maybe even in the church, there are

so many ways in which we have relationship with people. And when we live in a fallen world,

conflict is going to happen between people. Talk for just a

second about those different dynamics that we experience and the conflict that abounds in the

relationships that we have. Well, I think what we see in the world today is just a reflection of what's in

the heart. We have a conflict on all levels, even with three-year-olds.

That's probably where they've learned it, but one thing they didn't learn is the humility that's

necessary to be able to resolve that conflict. We think somebody has something against us,

and we speak out against them before we even heard what they said. And so we

have problems in the church. We have problems between pastors. We have problems between missionaries.

It's all over the place. And rather than taking the attitude of Christ, and he's the one who is our

example, and we should have the example of humility.

Now, when you sit down with someone who is describing to you a conflict,

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