Human Suffering and Heaven's Hope, Part 2 on this edition of Truth and Love.

I'm Dale Johnson and you're listening to Truth and Love, a podcast of the Association of Certified

Biblical Counselors, where we seek to provide

biblical solutions for the problems that people face.

This week on the podcast, I am joined by Johnny Erickson Tata, and Johnny needs no introduction

to many of you.

The Lord has used her life in so many ways around the world.

Johnny is the founder of Johnny and Friends International, an organization that ministers

to those who are disabled around the world. She has lived a life of consistent and faithful ministry to the Lord Jesus,

demonstrating that joy can be had even in deep human suffering.

And so, Johnny, today, we're delighted that you're here to share with us about some of that suffering

and the ways that God through his word,

through his promises has given you hope and the ability to live with joy in this life.

We have a tendency to want to do everything we can to avoid this thing categorized as suffering.

And the Bible teaches us that Jesus learned through suffering.

Can you just tell us maybe, I know this will be difficult, but narrowed down to maybe two or three things that the Lord has taught you through suffering.

I was just telling him the other night in prayer.

I was just saying to him, oh, Jesus, thank you for being obedient in your suffering

because that is providing me the grace to be obedient in mine.

That a nice way to pray.

Thank you, Jesus, because your patience has taught me. It's given me the grace to be patient as well. I carry around in me this wonderful stillness. It says be still and know that I'm God. There's a big part of me that is always still. I may be rushing through a busy day, but there is a large part of me that

isn't. I'm paralyzed. I'm in a wheelchair. There is instant stillness. I come off a plane.

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