New legislation is making its way through Congress that would effectively ban TikTok in the United

States, forcing the app's parent company to either sell to another company or shutter U.S. operations.

But the public backlash is also growing to this latest excess of the anti-China campaign,

the new McCarthyism. We need a new system. We need a new society. We need to demand that which may

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Professor Wolfe, welcome back.

Thank you very much, Brian.

Glad to be here.

Well, we're very happy you're with us again, Richard.

The new McCarthyism, the anti-China campaign, reaching truly demented levels, a true

hysteria. But that's true about the last witch hunt, too, the one in 1946, 47, 48.

You know, the House of Un-American Activities Committee wasn't getting that

much traction in their anti-communist crusade until they could start to target Hollywood. And then

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