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🗓️ 16 December 2020
⏱️ 25 minutes
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With TikTok’s legal future hanging in the balance, Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg hasn’t been shy about borrowing what works from the Chinese upstart and replicating it within Instagram. But his copycat feature Reels made more of a ripple than a splash when it debuted. For more on TikTok’s woes, we speak with Taylor Lorenz. She covers culture and technology for the New York Times and tells us why TikTok’s success can’t be easily duplicated and how Instagram’s Reels-focused redesign angered the platform’s long time influencers.
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| 0:06.0 | I'm David Brown and this is Business Wars. |
| 0:36.0 | Today we conclude our TikTok vs Instagram series. |
| 0:39.0 | In Episode 5 we brought things up to the present, the final countdown on what seemed to be the end of TikTok came and went and the company remains. |
| 0:49.0 | The Department of Commerce is back down on enforcing President Trump's executive order to ban the app and it's unclear if President-elect Joe Biden will decide to pursue the issue. |
| 0:58.0 | All the while, the Oracle deal to acquire the powerhouse app hangs in the balance. On the other side of things, Instagram is looking to pounce while TikTok is buried in legal issues. |
| 1:09.0 | Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg hasn't been shy about borrowing what works from TikTok and applying it to Instagram. |
| 1:15.0 | Q Reels, that's a copycat video feature within Instagram. |
| 1:19.0 | It's only about four months old at this point and has been pushed front and center amongst its 112 million active monthly users. |
| 1:26.0 | For more we're chatting with Taylor Lorenz, she covers culture and technology for the New York Times and she'll discuss the future of the short videos space and how it's evolving. |
| 1:35.0 | Next. |
| 1:38.0 | 13 years ago in one of the cramped dorm rooms of prestigious Sarah Lawrence College, a nightmare unfolded. |
| 1:45.0 | The students didn't know it yet, but when a bizarre new roommate moved in, he would change their lives forever. |
| 1:51.0 | Devil in the dorm, an exclusive new podcast on Wondery Plus, dives into the horrifying story of Larry Ray, who moved into the dorms with his daughter. |
| 2:00.0 | Shortly thereafter he started to control, manipulate, and brainwash some of the students. |
| 2:05.0 | And before long, Ray had amassed what could be best described as a small cult following. |
| 2:10.0 | Devil in the dorm, a six-part investigative series, draws from transcripts, exhibits, audio files, and video recordings from Larry Ray's federal trial to give listeners a sense of the story. |
| 2:20.0 | And then he's able to give listeners unprecedented insight into his heinous crimes, which include extorting millions of dollars through violence, psychological torture, and forced sex work. |
| 2:31.0 | You can listen to Devil in the dorm exclusively on Wondery Plus, join Wondery Plus in the Wondery app or on Apple Podcasts. |
| 2:39.0 | Hi, I'm Lindsey Graham, host of the Wondery Show Business Movers. |
| 2:43.0 | In our latest series, an intrepid lawyer turned fast food executive named George Cohan creates an ingenious and wily scheme to sell big Macs behind the Iron Curtain in the middle of the Cold War. |
| 2:54.0 | Listen to business movers, the McDonald's Invasion on Amazon Music or wherever you get your podcasts. |
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