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U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

TikTok, Inc. v. Garland

U.S. Supreme Court Oral Arguments

Oyez

National, Government & Organizations

4.6640 Ratings

🗓️ 10 January 2025

⏱️ 149 minutes

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Summary

A case in which the Court will decide whether the Protecting Americans from Foreign Adversary Controlled Applications Act, as applied to TikTok, violates the First Amendment.

Transcript

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0:00.0

We will hear an argument this morning in case 24-656, TikTok versus Garland, and the consolidated case.

0:07.0

Mr. Francisco.

0:08.3

Mr. Chief Justice, and may it please the Court, under the Act, one of America's most popular speech platforms will shut down in nine days.

0:17.3

That shouldn't happen for three reasons.

0:20.0

First, TikTok Incorporated is a U.S. company speaking in the

0:23.8

United States. The Act requires it to go dark unless bite dance executes a qualified divestager. Whether you

0:31.2

call that a ban or a divestiture, one thing is clear. It's a burden on TikTok speech, so the First Amendment applies.

0:40.6

Second, the Act is content-based from beginning to end. It applies only to social media platforms

0:47.2

that have user-generated content except for business, product, and travel reviews.

0:53.5

Within that content-based universe, it singles out a single speaker for uniquely harsh treatment,

0:59.6

and it does so because the government fears that China could, in the future,

1:04.6

indirectly pressure TikTok to disseminate foreign misinformation and propaganda.

1:10.4

Finally, the act can't satisfy any standard of scrutiny.

1:14.6

The government has no valid interest in preventing foreign propaganda, and its fallback

1:21.2

that it seeks merely to prevent covertness makes no sense, since that could be

1:27.1

addressed with a risk disclosure.

1:29.4

The government's real target, rather, is the speech itself. It's fear that Americans, even if

1:34.8

fully informed, could be persuaded by Chinese misinformation. That, however, is a decision that

1:41.4

the First Amendment leaves to the people.

1:48.9

Given that, the government's data security rationale cannot independently sustain the Act, it is also grossly under-inclusive and ignores the most obvious, less restrictive

1:54.7

alternative, simply banning TikTok incorporated from sharing any sensitive user data with anyone.

2:03.4

In short, this act should not stand.

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