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slash UK slash AI for people. This is open to debate. I'm John Donvan. Welcome everybody. In this Back to School special episode, we are going to do a debate about TikTok in the classroom. Tick-Tock, of course, is the social media app that comes from China and that has made a considerable impression around the world, especially on youth, and that includes American youth.

People post videos usually very, very short videos,

on an extraordinary range of matters,

from food to finance to fashion,

from daring feats to dumb pranks, to political rants,

and sometimes on serious matters related to science or history or

health. Now, in that last group, there is some stuff that some school teachers in particular

have recognized as actually informative, like little videos on chemistry experiments, legitimate

chemistry experiments, and more and more teachers are actually importing these TikTok moments into their curricula because they say they add something to what's already happening in the classroom itself.

This debate is about whether that's a good idea, because in a lot of ways, a lot of people are concerned about TikTok.

They say that it's distracting, it's addictive, and in so many ways it's problematic. Not to

mention there are other ways to teach, better ways, maybe, or maybe not. That's the divide we are

debating across in this episode around this question. TikTok in the classroom, enhancing or

eroding the teaching profession. Let's meet our debaters, arguing that TikTok is enhancing

the teaching profession. I want to welcome Phil Cook. Phil is an education influencer and a high

school chemistry teacher. He's also a popular TikTok creator himself sharing his chemistry demonstrations

with millions online. In one of these demonstrations, he converts used cooking oil into biodiesel fuel. I wonder if the fuel I made will burn well enough to power my little putt putt boat. In another, a piece of paper from grass clippings. I just need to filter out the cellulose and then blend it smooth. And one where he even dissolves a soda can to show the plastic lining inside. Phil, it's all fascinating stuff, and it's great to have you on the program. Wonderful to be here. Thanks for having me. Thanks. It's great to have you here. And here to argue that TikTok in the classroom is doing the opposite. Is eroding the teaching profession? I want to welcome Adrian Dingle. Adrian is a secondary school teacher and education consultant, again, with a focus on chemistry. He is the author of several

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