Welcome to Sad Boys, a podcast about feelings and other things also.

I'm Jarvis.

I'm Jordan.

I'm, I think when people are really, really specific about what payment platform they want to use to like, like, for like any kind of personal purchase or something, like, yeah, like a Facebook market buy.

When they're really fussy about what payment platform, that's

suss to me. That to me is like... Well, if they said gift cards or something, I'd be like,

what is happening right now? Is that happened to you? Give cards is like actually a scammer thing.

Yeah, it happened to my mom.

Did she go go? No, well, no, she didn't because the moment, the moment they said gift, the moment if they, the moment they said gift cards, she was like, that's good.

This is not, this is a scam.

They got to figure out a better way of doing it because it is scam coded.

It's really, it's the contemporary version of I'm a Nigerian prince and I got some diamonds for you, sweetie.

Sometimes if it's like just, they will only take like Zell, I'm always like, I don't know.

Well, here's the thing. And I'm going to defend these people, actually. I'm going to take a little bit of a devil's advocate.

And I am the angel. There have at times been scam vulnerabilities in some of the payment apps with like your ability

to charge back and things like that. And Zelle being a bank transfer tends to be safer.

I don't know if this is true anymore.

And it's not currently like you know PayPal and Moe, they're the same company. And I don't know of any current vulnerability,

but there's been weird things in the past

where a random person would send you Venmo

and then say, oops, that was meant for someone else.

Can you send it back to me?

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