Mr. Talking Giants back there, Sean Morash, was fighting with you about, oh, no, Jackson Darts got to do it. He's earned the right. He was arguing about a lot of things. All of which I didn't matter. Yes, the kicker mattered. Well, we'll get to all of those things. I promise you. All of those things matter. Because to lose a game like this, trust me, there's a hundred different things that end up happening. And they're worthy of talking. But I agree that this is the number one thing. It has now been 22 hours. Yeah. And the beauty is, and I love the format we're in. We come on sports talk radio a day later. More time to think about it. When Tiki's doing the post game show, he is raw and emotional.

When you're doing talking giants or one giant step, you're raw and your emotion.

So now that you've had 22 hours to think about it and learn at the knee of a future Hall of Famer and Tiki Barber,

do you now agree that this was a major, major screw-up

throwing on third down?

I don't agree with that.

But, come on, no, no, no, no, no, no, hold on.

I agree that in hindsight, you know what, running the bowl as well.

I don't think it's a major screw-up because a completion there effectively ends the game.

That's where I lose the shape major. My issue was...

There's still four minutes to go, dude.

So it's nearly five, which is still an eternity.

And the only thing I disagree on is I don't think that if you punt the ball there, suddenly that means you're going to absolutely have to have an onside kick.

I do think Denver would have been able to get the ball down quicker. It felt like quicksand at that point for the defense. What the reason is, the two D-backs they lost. But they haven't done it. Yeah, I know what you're saying. You're going because of a D-Bos injury in Javon. The format of what the defense had played had completely changed when those two guys came out of the game. And frankly, and this is on Brian Dable because he hired the guy, we've learned. I wasn't trusting Shane Bowen in that spot without those guys to get it done. Deonté Banks and Drew Phillips are walking penalties with balls over their head. And I just viewed that game and viewed the way that team was playing or the way the Giants are playing offensively and said, and I'm ahead of myself.

I get it.

It came back to bite me in the ass. I trust giving Jackson Dard to look there. But he's a rookie. And he is a rookie. But worst case, which wasn't the worst case. I thought he throws it incomplete. All right, they lived with one time out. You punt anyway. he did the one thing that couldn't happen.

He threw a pick and he came back to bite him.

So I do...

So my point is, as a good coach, and anyway. He did the one thing that couldn't happen. He threw a pick and he came back to bite him.

Right. So I do. So my point is as a good coach, and in order to be a good coach, you have to have

winning pedigree, a winning culture. It just, it's not there. And there are many reasons why. I know

we won coach of the year in 2022, but for the last two years, they are not a winning organization. And so the reason you don't throw the ball there is because you haven't earned the right to do that. You haven't earned the right to be aggressive. Now, if you've done it multiple times and it's worked and you win games and you get to the postseason, you're doing X, Y, Z. Dan Campbell, going for one on fourth down for no damn reason, right?

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