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from a reformed Baptist perspective, my name is Joe Thorn and I am the lead pastor that

is the preaching pastor of Redeemer Fellowship in St. Charles, Illinois.

And I don't do follow executive pastor at Redeemer Fellowship executive pastor, that is yes,

man. That thanks what it is. You are the yes man to the lead pastor. I think that's

what executive pastor. Ah, this I ain't no such a turn.

That's it.

No, executive pastor is should never be the yes man. The executive pastors are the ones

that make everybody else uncomfortable because they're going, this is the way we're

supposed to do things. I find if I'm not fighting with Joe or anybody else, I'm not

doing my job. If I'm not, if you're not applying pressure, and if I, if people are not

irritated with me, like, Harry comes, I gotta go. I'm sorry, I don't talk to it.

I'm sorry, but why don't we go ahead and review the last session? I would love to review

with you. I feel like the last session, though, ministry, it was counseling, yeah, stuff.

It felt like that last session, though, was lacking in substance and quality. Yeah. Okay.

Can we go over your notes, though? Maybe let's take a take a look. I have, I feel like

I didn't really have some, I have some, I have some, I have some information, but they're

in my mind, and I can't really understand. I don't know for you and show them to what

we're trying to do. But I think you understand. I think I'm the same page. I think I'm

on the same page. No, no, we're good. I need to see your page, bro. But guess what, though?

So grateful. I guess I guess I could share my Wi-Fi and download that document right

now for our review. That's not at all ever what it's really like. Ever. Yeah, especially

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