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The Dividend Cafe

Thursday - September 4, 2025

The Dividend Cafe

The Dividend Cafe - The Bahnsen Group

Retirement Planning, Wealth Management, Investing, Business, Dividend Growth Investing, Estate Planning, Monetary Policy, Macro Economics

4.9572 Ratings

🗓️ 4 September 2025

⏱️ 10 minutes

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Summary

In this episode of Dividend Cafe, host Brian Szytel breaks down the latest economic data releases and their impact on the markets. He discusses the paradox of "bad news is good news" in the current market environment, analyzes labor market trends, and explains how Federal Reserve policy and interest rates are influencing investor sentiment. The episode also features a thoughtful exploration of the Fed's expanding powers, the risks of market intervention, and a lighthearted close with NFL season excitement.

00:00 – Introduction & Market Overview

00:24 – Anticipation for Non-Farm Payroll Report

00:46 – The “Bad News is Good News” Paradox

01:03 – Economic Data Recap

01:48 – ISM Services & Jobless Claims

02:43 – Q2 Productivity & Market Performance

03:27 – The Federal Reserve’s Role

04:42 – Expansion of Fed Powers

06:00 – Risks of Market Distortion

06:36 – Final Thoughts & NFL Kickoff

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dividend Cafe, weekly market commentary focused on dividends in your portfolio and dividends in your understanding of economic life.

0:10.0

Welcome back to Dividend Cafe. This is Thursday, September the 4th. Brian Saitel back here with you on a day where we got a good amount of economic debt out across the

0:22.2

board, mostly good, and I'll go through all of it. The markets were up on the day, largely around

0:28.1

some of the component of those economic reports that were actually negative with regard to

0:33.6

payrolls in the labor market, because tomorrow, and I've spoken about this now for a couple of weeks,

0:38.8

but since the last non-farm payroll report that we got in July was such a miss, we've been

0:45.0

anticipating the one coming out this month, which comes out tomorrow technically. So that's what

0:48.9

markets are paying attention to the most. And markets were up a little bit today based on some

0:53.3

of the labor data that was a little weaker today based on some of the labor data that was

0:54.5

a little weaker today, which just gives the market more confidence that the Fed is going to cut

0:58.6

rates. So that's really what we're talking about. Bad news being good. And for whatever it's worth,

1:03.1

I am hopeful that the non-farm payroll number tomorrow disappoints the market. And there's actually

1:09.4

a larger number of jobs created because ultimately

1:11.6

that's good for fundamentals long term. But that's the world we're living in now. The market is

1:16.1

hoping for a punchball that gets brought back with lower rates. And that's why we're a little higher

1:22.0

here on the day. We had a couple of other pieces of economic news out. There was ADP private payroll number,

1:29.8

as I mentioned. We got a miss on it. This was a 54,000 print versus an 85,000 expectation.

1:37.6

All of the gains, by the way, were all in leisure and hospitality. So people have jobs.

1:42.3

There are positive wage gains. We grew wages at about 4.4%. We know

1:47.5

inflation's around 2.7. So you've got people with basically full employment here, more or less,

1:53.0

some wage growth that's positive, and people are using that to go on vacations and do fun things

1:58.3

around services and experiences and so on and so forth that's showing up in the private payroll number.

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