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The Dividend Cafe

Thursday - June 5, 2025

The Dividend Cafe

The Dividend Cafe - The Bahnsen Group

Dividend Growth Investing, Investing, Estate Planning, Monetary Policy, Wealth Management, Business, Retirement Planning, Macro Economics

4.9572 Ratings

🗓️ 5 June 2025

⏱️ 8 minutes

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Summary

Market Recap and Upcoming Economic Indicators - June 5th Edition

In this episode of Dividend Cafe, host Brian Szytel from Newport Beach TBG HQ discusses the market's downturn on June 5, with the DOW closing down 108 points, the S&P down half a percent, and the Nasdaq down eight-tenths of a percent. Bond yields slightly rose, with the 10-year yield up three basis points to 4.39%. The episode examines recent economic data, including higher-than-expected initial jobless claims and a decline in Q1 productivity, attributing some of the economic softening to tariffs and trade balance shifts. Brian also touches on the complexities of international trade deals and the implications of Treasury bonds on financial institutions like Silicon Valley Bank. He wraps up by discussing the anticipated non-farm payroll numbers coming out soon.

00:00 Introduction and Market Overview

00:45 Economic Indicators and Employment Data

01:37 Trade Balance and GDP Insights

03:13 Treasuries and Interest Rates Discussion

04:29 Intergovernmental Debt Explanation

05:12 Conclusion and Upcoming Events

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Transcript

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0:00.0

Welcome to the Dividend Cafe weekly market commentary focused on dividends in your portfolio and dividends in your understanding of economic life.

0:12.2

Welcome to Dividend Cafe. This is Brian Sightel at the Newport Beach, TBG HQ here in California. It is June the 5th. And thank you for being with me here today.

0:23.1

We actually had a down day in markets and it closed right near the lows, not quite on the lows for the day.

0:28.6

But we had positive momentum in the morning and then just slowly did a stair step on the way down to a negative territory.

0:34.6

The Dow closed down. 108 points. S&P was down half of a percent.

0:39.2

NASDAQ was on eight-tenths of a percent. Bon yields were slightly higher. Ten year was up

0:44.0

about three basis points, but we're at 439 now on yields. Slowly but surely inching lower on

0:49.8

interest rates and the two-year is now down to 3.9 percent. So you've got some lower interest rates across the board year is now down to 3.9%. So you've got some lower interest rates

0:57.2

across the board. Some of that has to do with some softening economic data, not falling off a cliff,

1:02.1

but there was some weaker numbers on the employment front. We had initial job list claims that

1:07.0

came in higher than expected at 247. We were expecting a 230 print. And I've written about

1:12.7

this a few times, but anything south of 250 is considered okay. Once we start getting over 250

1:20.6

consistently, where I think the Fed starts to pay more attention as far as a softening labor market.

1:25.4

For now, we have yet to see that, but it is inching up. We were in the low 200s, then 220s, then 230s, and now we're into the 240s here. So we'll keep an eye on that. Productivity and Q1 declined more than expected. It was down one and a half percent, and a lot of that had to do with just a slow down and some import export around tariffs, but nonetheless,

1:46.0

that's the lowest number that we've seen here in a couple of years, so middle of 22.

1:50.0

And then the trade balance for the month of April narrowed more than expected.

1:56.0

It was negative $61 billion.

1:58.0

That was a big dropper on imports again around tariffs. Actually, that will be a positive thing on GDP calculation because imports detract from that number. And so remember on Q1 GDP, we had a negative 0.2% print. And what is expected now, at least of the Atlanta Fed, is something around a 3.8% positive number for Q2.

2:19.4

And a lot of that will have to do with just oscillations around imports that stopped in Q1

2:24.1

and then resumed in Q2. There was some comments today around why there hasn't been more deals

2:29.3

announced from country to country on different trade deals. Look, your guess is as good as mine.

2:35.0

What I would say, normally, these deals take a very long time to put together because they're very complex.

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