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The Daily

Thursday, Jan. 4, 2018

The Daily

The New York Times

Daily News, News

4.4102.8K Ratings

🗓️ 4 January 2018

⏱️ 19 minutes

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Summary

A new tell-all book about the first year of the Trump administration has the White House in a fury. Its key source is Stephen K. Bannon, President Trump’s former chief strategist, who disparages the president and his children. Mr. Trump responded: “Steve Bannon has nothing to do with me or my presidency. When he was fired, he not only lost his job, he lost his mind.” Guests: Peter Baker, chief White House correspondent; Maggie Haberman, White House correspondent. For more information on today’s episode, visit nytimes.com/thedaily.

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0:00.0

From The New York Times, I'm Michael Barbaro. This is The Daily.

0:09.5

Today, a new book has the White House in a fury.

0:14.5

Its key source is Steve Bannon.

0:18.5

What he said and what the president is saying in response.

0:24.0

It's Thursday, January 4th.

0:34.0

All right, Peter's in one second.

0:38.0

Peter, are there? Hello. How are you? I'm good.

0:42.0

Peter Baker got an advanced copy of the book.

0:46.0

The book called Fire and Fury by Michael Wolfe is a look inside the Trump White House first year

0:52.0

and it's a very sensational account of a White House in basically turmoil, dysfunctional White House fill with tribal rivalries and led by a president who at least in this portrayal is not a very serious character.

1:05.5

Not somebody who takes the job seriously, not someone who even wanted the job to begin with.

1:10.0

For instance, Sam Dunberg, who is an aide to President Trump on the campaign.

1:14.5

I went point was sent to explain the Constitution to the candidate.

1:18.0

He's quoted in the book saying, I got as far as the Fourth Amendment before his finger is pulling down on his lip and his eyes are rolling back in his head.

1:25.0

That's an on the record quote and pretty striking, right?

1:28.0

It's part of this overall portrayal of the candidate and later a president who's not very serious about this unlike any White House probably we've seen in modern times.

1:36.0

How did Wolfe actually do this reporting?

1:38.0

He says he had 200 interviews with people who round the president, people who are key to the president's team.

1:44.0

Some of these interviews are on the record and those are obviously the easier ones to evaluate.

1:48.0

Some of these episodes he talks about are not sourced to anyone in particular, not somebody who's named and there's a harder of course to know how accurate they are.

1:56.0

There's already been some pushback by some people around the president saying that things they were reported to have done is not accurate.

2:03.0

But certainly the overall portrayal is one that's very, very vivid and one that enhances what we've already seen I think publicly in this last year.

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