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All right, Ben, today is Thursday. It's June 5th. Welcome to the Dog Walk presented by Barstool Sports.

I am here with Jerry Thornton, a longtime Barstole blogger. And the last time you were on, Jerry, we talked the Karen Reed situation.

A lot has happened since then.

I just looked it up.

We talked in June of last year, June 13th, to be exact.

And a lot has happened since then.

So welcome back.

And I'm kind of interested to get back into this because it's sweeping up the whole nation.

Yeah, I appreciate you having me on.

It was a fun conversation the last time.

And yet a lot has happened, and yet where are we?

We're right back to square one.

You know, it's like that model of the universe that if you go in for infinity, you just end up in the same spot.

We've circumnavigated the entire Karen Reed Cosmos just to find herself standing right where we were this time last year.

Yeah, we definitely have. And I think, Jerry, obviously, you've been blogging about a lot of it on

the Barstool site. And you live in mass. And so you're kind of boots on the ground so i think it's it's an

interesting perspective obviously yeah and i i grew up in the very county norfolk county where this

happened i actually have a lawyer friend who's been a defense attorney who's also a former

prosecutor who has been convinced from the beginning that Karen Reid is guilty

a.F. And he got jury duty on this thing. He had to show up. And because it was like over like

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