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The Big Picture

‘Thunderbolts*’ Is Marvel’s Return to Form. Is It Too Late?

The Big Picture

The Ringer

Tv & Film

4.35.2K Ratings

🗓️ 2 May 2025

⏱️ 89 minutes

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Summary

Sean and Amanda are joined by their superhero correspondent, Mallory Rubin, to cover the latest installment of the Marvel Cinematic Universe with Jake Schreier’s, ‘Thunderbolts*’ (2:04). They praise the strong performances from Florence Pugh and Sebastian Stan, and dive deep into some spoilers to project which key characters could play a critical part going forward (18:15). Lastly, they have a big-picture conversation about the MCU and debate whether this return to form is too late to course-correct the state of Marvel (1:17:09). Hosts: Sean Fennessey and Amanda Dobbins Guest: Mallory Rubin Producer: Jack Sanders Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Look, it's not that confusing.

0:02.5

I'm Rob Harvilla, host of the podcast 60 songs that explain the 90s, except we did 120 songs.

0:08.9

And now we're back with the 2000s.

0:11.2

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0:12.5

2000 to 2009.

0:14.3

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0:17.8

And now the show is called 60 songs that explain the 90s, colon the 2000s. Wow. That's too long a title for me to say anything else right now. Just trust me. That's 60 songs that explain the 90s, colon the 2000s, preferably on Spotify.

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1:06.2

Music I'm Sean Fennacy.

1:17.0

And this is the big picture of conversation show about Thunderbolts.

1:22.3

Mallory Rubin is here.

1:23.9

Long-awaited return.

1:25.0

What was the last time you were here?

1:27.3

Complete unknown? Dillon, yeah, I think so. But last time the last time you were here complete unknown dillon yeah i think so but the

1:30.1

last time the three of us were together was harrison ford and indiana jones and the battle of destiny

1:35.9

wow is that the last time we've potted together i believe so whoa that's the summer of 2023 that's a

1:42.3

long time ago too long i would say i think so well you know Mallory and I took you to task for some of your opinions.

1:48.0

So it seems like you didn't want to revisit that.

1:50.5

We did the same for his takes on quantum mania, which the three of us also shared together.

1:55.0

Because Sean was very pro.

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