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The Zach Lowe Show

Thunder and Nuggets Atop the West, Disasters at the Bottom of It, and Some Happy Surprises With Mo Dakhil

The Zach Lowe Show

The Ringer

Basketball, Sports

4.82K Ratings

🗓️ 17 November 2025

⏱️ 86 minutes

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Summary

Mo Dakhil joins Zach (1:54) to talk about the dominance of the Thunder and Nuggets and how they’ve separated themselves from the rest of the league. Next, they look toward the bottom of the standings to discuss five disasters happening out West (25:43). Who’s got the biggest issues right now? What about going forward? And is choosing the worst disaster worse than going on 'Fear Factor'? Finally, some happy surprises across the NBA, including the Raptors (56:37), Suns (01:04:12), and Hawks (01:10:42). Plus, some end-of-game coaching dilemmas, a classic “who says no” fake trade, and a whole lot more! Host: Zach Lowe Guest: Mo Dakhil Producers: Mike Wargon, Jesse Aron, Jonathan Frias, and Billy Gil Social: Keith Fujimoto The Ringer is committed to responsible gaming. Please visit www.rg-help.com to learn more about the resources and helplines available Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Coming up on the Zach Lowe show, it's Monday.

0:02.7

And Moe DeKille and I have a lot to talk about Mondays with Mo. I kind of liked it. That has a good ring to it. We're going to talk at the top of the West, Oklahoma City and Denver. Oh, my God. They're playing like it's May. Is the whole season just a collision course between these two teams? We'll talk about how good they are, why they've been even better than expected, maybe at least in Denver's case,

0:21.4

a lot of teams are going to have something to say

0:22.6

about that Western Conference Collision course,

0:24.4

including... We'll talk about how good they are, why they've been even better than expected, maybe at least in Denver's case. A lot of teams are going to have something to say about that Western Conference collision course, including the Houston Rockets, among others. And then the most interesting, really, I just don't remember a time when there were this many complete disasters at the same time. By disaster, I don't mean like the 1 in 12 wizard who are tanking or the 2 and 11 nets who are tanking. Just beat the Wizards last night in the tank off. Or did they lose to the Wizards in the tank off? I don't know. I don't know how you classify that. I'm talking about teams that were ostensibly hoping to win games this year and are in such disarray that they are on the border or totally in disaster mode. Clippers, Mavericks, Pelicans, Grizzlies, Kangs. We're going to talk about all them. And we're going to talk about some happy surprises. The Phoenix Suns in the West, the Toronto Raptors in the East, and the Hawks without Trey Young. They're kind of cooking a little bit. What's real? What's not real? It's all coming up on the Zach Lowe show with Mo DeKiel. You're listening to The Zach Lowe show presented by Fandul. FanDul now displays your bets directly on your phone's lock screen. And with the latest updates to the live events and player pages, it's never been easier to be part of the game.

1:27.7

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1:47.1

welcome to the zach loz show it's almost thanksgiving that means moat deiel, we can start drawing some conclusions about what's happened in the NBA,

2:04.8

and we're going to start in the Western Conference.

2:06.7

But first of all, how are you, my friend?

2:08.6

I'm doing great.

2:09.6

I'm riding high off a nice weekend, a little bit rainy, got soaked at the USC game,

2:14.5

fight on for all my Trojans out there.

2:17.6

You know, but we came away with the W.

2:19.3

My Rams got a win yesterday.

2:21.1

Ugly as hell, but got a W.

2:23.8

So we're rolling in.

2:24.8

And Zach, we couldn't ask for the games last night.

2:28.5

It's unbelievable.

2:29.5

It seems like every night there's two crazy overtime games.

2:33.2

Even the ones that didn't go to overtime, Hardin gets the buzzer-beater,

2:36.7

almost cap and improbable clippers come back against Boston.

2:40.4

Royce O'Neill with the heave that almost goes in to beat the cacars on the road.

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