“Thucydides Trap”: Ex DHS Advisor Exposes Xi Jinping’s Hidden Threat To Donald Trump – Ask Dr. Drew – Ep 625

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4.3 • 851 Ratings

🗓️ 21 May 2026

⏱️ 71 minutes

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A high-stakes showdown is brewing behind closed doors between Donald Trump and Chinese President Xi Jinping. Citing the historical concept of the “Thucydides Trap,” Xi recently issued a not-so-veiled threat to the United States. Former DHS advisor Brad Thayer joins Dr. Drew to expose what really happened during their recent meeting, why this should be Trump’s final face-to-face negotiation with Xi, and how America must hold the Chinese Communist Party accountable. Combat veteran and mental health advocate Kelsi Sheren, author of the upcoming book “Do No Harm?”, exposes the terrifying expansion of Canada’s Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD) protocol. Anthony Brown and schizophrenia advocate Bethany Yeiser discuss the reality of severe mental illness on our streets. Sharing her own remarkable recovery from four years of homelessness and psychosis, Bethany explains how we can rescue patients from the psychiatric vacuum. Dr. Bradley Thayer is a Founding Member of the Committee on the Present Danger China and formerly a Special Governmental Employee in the Department of Homeland Security. He is co-author of Embracing Communist China and Understanding the China Threat. Follow at https://x.com/bradthayer Kelsi Sheren is a combat veteran, bestselling author, and host of The Kelsi Sheren Perspective. She is the author of the forthcoming Skyhorse book Do No Harm?: How the Healthcare Industry Legalized Murder, exposing Medical Assistance in Dying (MAiD). Follow at https://x.com/kelsisheren Anthony Brown is the founder and director of Coordinating & Assisting Recovery Environments (C.A.R.E.), located in Anaheim, California. Since 1999, he has provided specialized treatment for individuals with mental illness combined with substance use disorder. He holds a B.S. in Nursing from California State University Fullerton and is the author of From Park Bench to Park Avenue: One Man’s Journey Out of Homelessness. Learn more at https://anthonyhowardbrown.com/ Bethany Yeiser is President of The CURESZ Foundation, which she co-founded with Dr. Henry A. Nasrallah in 2016. Diagnosed with schizophrenia in 2007, she achieved full recovery through clozapine treatment and earned her molecular biology degree magna cum laude from the University of Cincinnati in 2011. She is the author of the memoir Mind Estranged and a TED Talk speaker. Follow at https://x.com/CURESZorg 「 SUPPORT OUR SPONSORS 」 ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠• FATTY15 – The future of essential fatty acids is here! Strengthen your cells against age-related breakdown with Fatty15. Get 15% off a 90-day Starter Kit Subscription at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/fatty15⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • PALEOVALLEY - "Paleovalley has a wide variety of extraordinary products that are both healthful and delicious,” says Dr. Drew. "I am a huge fan of this brand and know you'll love it too!” Get 15% off your first order at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://drdrew.com/paleovalley⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • THE WELLNESS COMPANY - Counteract harmful spike proteins with TWC's Signature Series Spike Support Formula containing nattokinase and selenium. Learn more about TWC's supplements at ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://twc.health/drew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ 「 ABOUT THE SHOW 」 This show is for entertainment and/or informational purposes only, and is not a substitute for medical advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Executive Producers • Kaleb Nation - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://kalebnation.com⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ • Susan Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/firstladyoflove⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Content Producer • Emily Barsh - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/emilytvproducer⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Hosted By • Dr. Drew Pinsky - ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠https://x.com/drdrew⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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0:00.0	We are going to cover a ton of territory today. Later in the show, we're going to get Anthony
0:05.6	Brown and Bethany Yizer in here. She was from Cures, c-U-R-E-S-Z.org. She herself had schizophrenia,
0:12.8	was on the street, and was effectively treated. She's written a memoir, mind-a-strange, and a great
0:17.4	TED Talk. I suggest you take it, check it out. You can follow her on XCuresZ.org.
0:23.6	And also Bethany Yizer, Y-E-I-S-E-I-S-E-R.com. And of course, Anthony Brown, who have you met here before, has his own story. You can follow Anthony at Anthony Brown.com.
0:35.0	Oh, Anthony Howard Brown. And let's see, he's have to tell it.
0:38.7	On Instagram, Brown underscore Manor, which is what Anthony is working on to create housing
0:43.8	for homeless folks.
0:45.0	They have a story.
0:46.2	They've been there, and they will share their ideas about how we can manage this problem.
0:50.5	Guess what?
0:51.1	They're not doing a good job.
0:52.9	Kelsey Sharon will be here as well and she has grave
0:55.3	concerns about the medically assisted suicide, the maid program. You can follow her at Kelsey,
1:03.1	K-L-E-S-I. Sharon is spelled S-H-E-R-E-N on X. And she is a combat veteran and author and has some concerns.
1:13.5	She's going to share with us.
1:14.4	But first up, Brad Thayer comes back.
1:17.0	His book is called The Hundred Years War.
1:19.9	Let me get the specific names coming out in August.
1:22.0	America's Hundred Year War, How to Win Against Communism.
1:25.5	I think it's a really interesting frame.
1:27.3	It's certainly been something that has been a battle my entire lifespan, and it's nice to see that framed as a hundred years' war. He has a book out presently, Caleb, when you could throw that one. Which one did you just throw up? Did you up to 100 years' war? Is that what was up there? Yeah, it's understanding the China threat. Understanding the China threat, which is what he and I are going to talk about.
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