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The Ancients

Thucydides: Thoughts on the Athenian Empire

The Ancients

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🗓️ 17 December 2020

⏱️ 42 minutes

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From 478 BCE until 404 BCE, a collection of Greek city-states were united under the leadership of Athens. Beyond inscriptions and a few minor sources, there is very little to tell us about life within this empire … that is, except the works of Thucydides, an Athenian historian and general who wrote a history of the Peloponnesian War. Professor Polly Low from Durham University spoke to Tristan about what we can learn from Thucydides work about this Athenian empire. How did Athens come to have this power? How did they keep their subjects in line? What did Thucydides miss out?

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0:00.0

It's the ancients on History Hit. I'm Tristan Hughes your host and in today's podcast

0:08.4

we are looking at the Athenian Empire that thrived in the 5th century BC. We're going

0:14.1

to be looking at how the Empire rose in the aftermath of the Persian Wars. We're going

0:18.5

to be looking at how the Empire was run. We're going to be looking at its allies and we're

0:23.2

going to be looking at the Empire through the lens of one of the most significant ancient

0:27.7

historians that survives to us today. The contemporary Athenian Thucydides. Now join me to talk

0:34.6

through what we know about the Athenian Empire. I was delighted to be joined by Professor

0:39.0

Polly Lowe from the University of Durham. Polly specialises in ancient classical history,

0:45.2

particularly classical Greece and it was great to get her on the show to talk through all things

0:50.3

Athenian Empire, particularly on how this empire was run. Here's Polly.

1:01.6

Polly, thank you for joining me today. It's a pleasure to be here. Now Thucydides and the Athenian

1:07.2

Empire. This is a story of a man who appears to have had quite a negative view of his home cities.

1:12.3

Can we say imperial addiction? Yes, I think so. I mean trying to pin down Thucydides' views is always

1:18.7

quite a hard task and there's one reason why we keep reading and arguing about him because

1:23.6

there's endless debate on exactly what he thought about anything but my reading of the text is

1:29.4

that he's very critical of his home city and how his home city behaves to other Greeks.

1:36.2

And if we go into the background first of all, what sort of world is Thucydides born into?

1:41.6

This is the 5th century BC. Yep, so he is a wealthy Athenian. His family,

1:48.1

a part of the Athenian elite, they made their money from gold mining up in northern Greece and

1:53.7

they have connections with non-thenian cities which is a hallmark of being in the upper echelons

1:59.0

of society. And Thucydides must have been active in politics. He was elected as a general during

2:05.2

the Peloponnesian War. He's pretty reticent about himself apart from telling us that but we can

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