Through the Looking Glass with Mike Doran, Part II
The Lawfare Podcast
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🗓️ 6 January 2018
⏱️ 53 minutes
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Summary
Part II of the conversation between Michael Doran and Benjamin Wittes. Doran, a former Brookings scholar now at the Hudson Institute, served in the George W. Bush White House, at the State Department, and at the Pentagon. The first part of the conversation dealt with how Doran broke with the Never Trumpers, how he sees the President, and how he sees the Russia investigation in broad strokes. This part deals with the Mueller investigation, the FBI, the Justice Department leadership, and the prosecution of Michael Flynn.
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| 0:29.0 | This investigation brought down the nationals, the sitting, |
| 0:37.0 | national security advisor of the Trump administration. |
| 0:41.0 | And it brought him down on the basis of a lie that he told the FBI |
| 0:45.0 | about a totally innocuous thing. |
| 0:49.0 | He told them about something that they had in front of them |
| 0:53.0 | on the basis of an intersect. |
| 0:55.0 | Right? It's not like he had hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars in his freezer |
| 1:01.0 | which he'd been handed by Kisley-Akk and he lied about that. |
| 1:05.0 | You ask me where my red line is? That would bother me. |
| 1:09.0 | He made an absolute innocuous lie of the kind that people in the workplace |
| 1:13.0 | and in government make all the time. |
| 1:15.0 | Do you think that Hillary Clinton told the full truth about the |
| 1:19.0 | to the FBI about her emails when she was being investigated? |
| 1:25.0 | I'm Benjamin Wittis and this is the LawFair podcast January 6, 2018. |
| 1:33.0 | It's part two of my conversation with Hudson Institute scholar Mike Durand, |
| 1:38.0 | former Bush White House and Defense Department official |
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