When it comes to investing, I think people often are in fight or flight because they're

either really excited about something and aggressive and like, you know, you got that sort

of Wall Street energy, or they're sort of afraid, nervous, apprehensive, running, you know,

selling, impulsive, and that kind of thing.

That was Dr. David Ross Marion, author of Thriving with Anxiety,

nine tools to make your anxiety work for you. I'm Motleyful producer Matt Greer.

Now, Motleyful analyst Jason Moser recently talked to Ross Marin about thriving with anxiety

in everything from parenting to investing.

Enjoy.

I'm happy to be joined by Dr. David Ross Marin today.

Dr. Ross Marin is the founder of the Center for Anxiety and a psychologist at McLean Hospital, as well as an associate professor in the Department of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School. And he's also the author of Thriving with Anxiety. Nine Tools to Make Your Anxiety Work for You. Dr. Ross-M Marin, thanks so much for being with us today.

Thanks for having me. A huge honor to be here. You know, it was a fascinating book, and I really got a

lot out of reading it. I want to start off with why do you believe that normal or healthy children

today have higher anxiety levels than the psychiatric patients that you noted in the 1950s?

It's an incredible finding, isn't it, that help you children today have more anxiety than

inpatient psych hospital patients from the 1950s in the United States.

Now, I want to be clear, that's only in the United States.

So if you go to third world countries, you go to low income, middle income countries, they do not have as much anxiety.

And the reason is because, well, kids today think that if they have anxiety, then something is wrong with them and it takes them down the tubes.

The reality is anxiety is part of life. And our culture tells us everything to the opposite, which is creating an anxiety epidemic.

Interesting. And you also described in the book, anxiety, as a false positive fear response.

You know, in a world of seemingly real threats every day, right? I mean, we just went through, I think, a very anxious time for many of us over the last several years with COVID and whatnot.

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