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Three-way talks between the US, Russia and Ukraine to start

Newshour

BBC

Daily News, News

4.21.1K Ratings

🗓️ 23 January 2026

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

The first three-way talks between the US, Russia and Ukraine are due to be held later today. It's a new development - but will it bring peace closer? Senior officials from all three nations are involved, but it is unclear whether they will be in the same room together at any point.

Also in the programme: A deal has been done to keep Tiktok in the US; we go inside the secret prisons of southern Yemen; and we find out how to eavesdrop on villains in 17th century London.

(Photo shows Russia's top economic negotiator Kirill Dmitriev and US Presidential Envoy Steve Witkoff attend a meeting at the Kremlin in Moscow, Russia on 22 January 2026. Alexander Kazakov/Sputnikl/EPA)

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:09.1

Hello and welcome to NewsHour. It's coming to you live from the BBC World Service studios in central London.

0:15.2

I'm Tim Franks. The vast toll of Russia's war inside Ukraine we all know about, the huge numbers killed, the fear and displacement and cold, endless, biting cold caused to Ukrainians by the daily aerial bombardments.

0:32.1

And with Russia's advances in the East coming not just bloodily, but it feels at a grindingly slow pace. It may seem

0:39.2

sometimes that diplomacy is proceeding at a similarly painful tempo, negotiations brokered by the US,

0:46.1

which are often talked up by the American side, but which ultimately do not lead to a ceasefire,

0:52.0

let alone a peace. So the question today is whether that mould may be about to be broken, because we're

0:59.6

expecting later today the first trilateral talks between Ukraine, Russia and the US since the

1:06.2

full-scale invasion of nearly four years ago.

1:08.7

They'll be held in Abu Dhabi.

1:12.4

Let's cross first to our Eastern Europe correspondent, Sarah Rainsford, in Kiev. Sarah, I'm wondering whether you, well,

1:19.7

what you make of the prospect of these talks, and also the fact that Steve Wittkoff,

1:23.5

the American envoy, has said that we've really just got down to one issue. What's he talking about?

1:33.1

Yeah, I mean, the problem is that that one issue is the central issue. I mean, if it's true that

1:38.9

there's only really one issue that stands between Ukraine and peace breaking out. That issue is the issue of territory,

1:46.6

and it's the most controversial, the most difficult to resolve. It's the one where Russia essentially

1:51.6

is insisting that Ukraine needs to withdraw from the rest of the Dombas region in the east of

1:57.5

this country and hand it over to Russia.

2:05.0

And Ukraine, of course, there's no way because that's territory that it's been defending at the cost of a huge number of soldiers' lives for many years.

2:08.6

And it's not simply going to gift that to Russia if Russia hasn't been able to win it through

2:12.4

fighting.

2:13.0

So that is the one little issue that remains between these two countries.

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