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Woman's Hour

Three-person DNA babies, Emer Kenny, Dangers of sexual strangulation

Woman's Hour

BBC

Society & Culture, Health & Fitness, Personal Journals

4.22.9K Ratings

🗓️ 18 July 2025

⏱️ 58 minutes

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Summary

Eight babies have been born in the UK using genetic material from three people to prevent devastating and often fatal conditions. The method, pioneered by UK scientists, combines the egg and sperm from a mum and dad with a second egg from a donor woman. The technique has been legal in the UK for a decade but this is the first proof it is leading to children born free of incurable mitochondrial disease, which is normally passed from mother to child. Anita Rani is joined by Kat Kitto who has two daughters, one of whom has mitochondrial disease, and Louise Hyslop, consultant embryologist at the Newcastle Fertility Centre, to tell us more.

Hit ITV crime drama Karen Pirie returns to our screens for a second series this weekend, based on the Val McDermid series of novels about a young Scottish detective. Anita is joined in the studio by showrunner, screenwriter and actor Emer Kenny to talk about bringing a new cold case to life for Karen to solve, juggling series two with a newborn, and how she’s managed to combine acting and writing since landing her first big role as Zsa Zsa Carter in EastEnders at the age of 20.

A Government review found that porn involving non-fatal strangulation was "rife" and its prevalence online was contributing to choking, filtering into some people's sex lives - particularly among young people. Last month it was announced that choking will be criminalised in an amendment to the Crime and Policing Bill. To discuss, Anita was joined by Professor Clare McGlynn, Professor of Law at Durham University who contributed to the review, and Dr Jane Meyrick, Associate Professor of Health Psychology at the University of the West of England, who specialises in sexual health and sexual violence.

This week, throughout our series on women and gaming, we’ve heard about the influence that games can have in society. We've spoken to women working in the industry, and found out more about the impact gaming can have on women, but we can’t shy away from the fact that there are still barriers stopping women from accessing games. Anita is joined by to Marie-Claire Isaaman, CEO of Women in Games, Nick Toole, CEO of Ukie, and Stephanie Ijoma, gamer and founder of NNESAGA, to discuss what still needs to change and how the industry can improve.

Presenter: Anita Rani Producer: Corinna Jones

Transcript

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0:00.0

I'm Mariana Spring, the BBC's social media investigations correspondent.

0:06.0

In my podcast, I've been investigating what happened to the daughter of a conspiracy theorist who died having rejected chemotherapy.

0:13.0

It would mean the world to me if I could make it that she wasn't just another in the long line of people that die in this way.

0:19.0

How does this reflect the rise of health conspiracy theories on social media and beyond?

0:24.8

The new series of Mariana in Conspiracy Land, listen on BBC Sounds.

0:31.1

BBC Sounds, music, radio podcasts.

0:35.2

Hello, I'm Anita Rani and welcome to Woman's Hour from BBC Radio 4.

0:40.5

Good morning and welcome to the program.

0:43.5

Huge congratulations to the lionesses after their nail-biting win.

0:48.7

3-2 last night against Sweden after penalties,

0:51.9

keeping their dream of defending their European championship title alive. And now they'll play Italy in the semi-final on Tuesday.

0:59.2

So schools are out for summer and the weekend is here. What will you be celebrating or cheering

1:04.4

on this weekend? Get in touch with the program in the usual way. The text number is 84844. You can email us via our website.

1:13.5

You can follow us on social media. It's at BBC Woman's Hour and our WhatsApp number, which you could save to your phone, is 0300-100-444. Also, actor, writer, producer, Emma Kenny will be here to tell us about series two of ITV detective series Karen Piri.

1:31.1

We've been discussing women in gaming all week and today we zoom out and look at the industry as a whole.

1:37.5

If you game, what does it bring to your life?

1:39.7

Gaming isn't just shoot-em-ups or driving games.

1:42.6

Are you a digital word puzzle solver or Sudoku lover?

1:46.7

Lots of us are gaming out there, so your thoughts on that, please.

1:50.2

And last month, the government announced that the depiction of strangulation in pornography will be banned.

1:57.1

A third of 16 to 34-year-olds has experienced choking during sex.

2:02.3

We will be talking about that shortly.

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