Dear listeners, if you're hearing this, that means the Paradox Tinto has announced Europa

Universalist 5.

We're finally allowed to talk about it.

I'm Len and I'm here with Lambert.

Hello, hello.

And Father Loris.

Hello.

I'm shocked.

I didn't expect it.

No one expected this.

I was still holding out hope for March of the Victoria Five.

So we were all, we, the three of us and some other creators who you might hear in a little

zinger at the end of this episode, actually got to go to Tinto to play this a little bit ago.

And now we've,

we've also gotten to play it at home for a significantly longer time.

We were like sitting in the audience and I was still thinking,

the most epic funny thing they could possibly do is announce March of the Eagles too like

while we're all sitting here just like just go for it Johan like you'll you'll go down as a legend

if it's not Europa Universalist 5 but also, we wanted EU5, right?

Well, it is, but, like, it also is March of the Eagles, too, because, like, it has a lot of

the features that I liked from March of the Eagles.

It's also...

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