Good evening you are listening to Three Moves Had, and I'm your host, Rob Zakene.

Today, I'm joined by freelance writer and host of the Total Massacre podcast series.

Its name changes sometimes, Rowan Kaiser.

Hello.

Rowan, a couple weeks ago, you mentioned, you messaged me, urging me to revisit Rand tactician civil war and indie war game from

Oliver Keppelmuller that came out last year and which has been patched pretty extensively

since and patches are ongoing but you said this game for for us or people like us might be

the dream can you might be the dream.

Can you describe what the dream is and how grand tactician seems like it might realize it,

if not now, then maybe someday?

Occasionally now, hopefully, more consistently someday.

Grand tactician is like an everything civil war game. So we're not stimulating individual battles. We're not just doing the strategic thing. It wants you to,

you know, build your ships. It wants you to go down and do a tactical battle. It wants you to

decide on what your political policies are. The first time I

played it, I thought, wow, this is like paradox trying to do a civil war game, which is,

the more I get into it, it's a little, it's a little more dubious than that, but like the

idea that you have something that's completely real time, everything is going, and you're covering

military, economics, politics, even some social stuff in terms of like the generals you recruited

such. Yeah, that's part one of the dream. Like lots of games want to try to do everything for the Civil War.

Very few actually try to do like full strategic level and full tactical level.

But the dream itself is actually that the tactical level in particular seems to be allowing for you to, or seems to be allowing for everyone to fuck up.

The Civil War is a war defied by people just completely screwing the pooch constantly.

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