Good evening you are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakeney.

This evening, I am hanging out where Eagles Dare at the home of our elite, irregular panelist, Dr. Bruce Garrick. Hello, gamers. And as I may or may not have alluded to on another podcast you've heard recently. Because we don't know if you've heard it yet. Yeah, we're not sure what order these are all coming out in.

Again, apologies for the disrupted schedule through the month of July.

A few episodes fell through at the last minute.

I'm going to blame Bruce and his dodgy computer.

That's my fault.

And we're sort of getting caught up here.

And so for the last few days, I've been hanging out at Bruce's house getting a tour of board games.

And the topic of this show is sort of a comparative study in board game design that Bruce sort of prepared the syllabus for.

Complit.

Based on my request that we finally make time to play Ted Racer's Pads of Glory, which Bruce supported me on, Bruce was like, by all means, let's play Paths of Glory.

But let's not just play Paths of Glory.

Bruce, you want to take us through a little bit what the overall syllabus was here?

I've got the names of the designers

here. Sure. Well, I can go through them. No, I know him. So we played PASI Glory. That's Ted Racer's

game with Charles S. Roberts' award-winning game from 1998. That sort of set us on our current,

well, I don't know about current, but it, it, it, it demonstrated

for a lot of people just how transformative card-driven designs could be, because I know that

Mark Herman's car-driven, we the People, had sort of set the stage,

but Ted Racer really refined it and took it to a completely different level,

and wargaming has really never been the same sense.

And it was fascinating, I think, to gamers at the time,

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