Good evening. You are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakeney.

Join me today. Welcome back to our friend, freelance writer and PC culture editors at GamesPete.

Okay, PC guest post editor at Gamespeat. Rowan, welcome to the show.

Thank you for having me again after every week.

That's true.

Well, I'm leaning on you pretty heavily,

and I'm trying to build our rapport for the justified podcast.

It's coming.

Yeah.

We are also joined by our friend, once again,

still the Games King, Sean Sands.

I notice you never get my honorifics wrong.

I appreciate that.

I appreciate that attention to detail.

So today we're going to be tackling the, this month's sort of podcast poll topic,

and it was a real nail biter.

It came down between what makes a good diplomacy system, and in particular,

bargaining, which narrowly lost. And instead, we're going to be discussing satisfying setbacks.

In a word, when do we like it when games are mean to us versus what does a game do wrong or when does it

feel like a game is telling us to just give up dwell upon our failures and either uninstall or

restart or maybe just reload that save or everything went wrong so that that's kind of what I want to dig into.

And I mean, right out of the gate, I got to, I got to say it.

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