Good evening and welcome to Three Moves Ahead. I'm your host, Bruce Garrick. Today we have a very special guest.

We have Jack Green, a noted game designer, longtime hobby member, an all-around good guy. Jack,

welcome to the show. Well, thank you. So, Jack, you, for the listeners who don't know you,

give people a little bit of a background of

how you got into the hobby.

I believe that it was back in the 60s and you were, you played with little green army men

and you eventually from that point got into games like Gettysburg.

How did you end up being a

gamer? Well, actually it goes back to the 50s. Oh, okay. And it was little green army soldiers,

and it was bottle tops. I used to collect bottle tops in fifth and sixth grade and make armies of

Byerleys and Coke regiments and, oh gosh, seven up regiments.

And, you know, I saw it.

And in sixth grade, I did a reenactment of the passing of the forts at New Orleans for Fourth of July with, I put a monitor in there with a coffee can for the off of a board.

Yeah. So it was a lot of fun back then.

And then in sixth grade, I saw a copy of Gettysburg, the original version, being

played by a sixth grade friend of mine and his eighth grade brother, and I got hooked.

Yeah.

Well, that's, you know, that's interesting.

That's an age where some of us really became gamers. I think sixth grade was the time when I, gosh, I can't remember what, I think probably Luftwaffe, some game, some similar game like that, Rook Toffens War as well. Those were all, that was a time when, when the hobby was really, I guess, seemed like there were no bounds, although we were,

you know, we were still obviously tiny little niche and there wasn't as much board gaming as

there is now. It kind of seemed like there were all these possible, all these possibilities.

And you kind of... I would disagree with you. I would say that in the late 50s and early 60s with D-Day, with Gettysburg, with, well, you really

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