Good evening you are listening to Three Moves Ahead, and I'm your host, Rob Zakeney.

Joining me today, we have freelance writer Fraser Brown.

Hello.

Are you already yawning and falling asleep, Fraser?

What? No, I said hello.

All right, it sounded pretty, it sounded pretty much like a tired old man Fraser yawn from over here it's not even

10 o'clock at night over here i'm full of life vim and vigor and all that good stuff all right

and we are also joined by lor sworn's t j hayfer hello uh and we're going to be revisiting one of my favorite games from last year, Hearts of Iron

Four, in light of a whole bunch of patches and the Together for Victory expansion.

So, you know, let's recap a little bit.

Where did we all come down with Hearts of Iron at launch?

I thought it was terrific.

I never really understood what the hell was happening with air combat.

But that aside...

Nobody on the wiki even knows what's going on with air combat. But that aside... Nobody on the WICD even knows what's going on with air combat.

Yeah, so with the exception of that, though,

it delivered mostly on what I wanted.

The only...

The major issues I had were that air combat felt a little weird,

and I felt like the game maybe kept, was a little too on rails as far as the alternate history went.

Like if you pushed outside of, if you went for like really historical routes, things got really weird, really fast.

And I wasn't sure how I

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